My Story

Recount your experience in the war and swap some stories.
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My Story

Post by ODS/SCOUT » Mon Jan 15, 2007 7:55 pm

How do you begin to tell a story about yourself and your experiences during a war? Where do you start when you know that there is no possible way to explain to someone what you have been through, knowing they will have no idea what you’re talking about or how it makes you feel to even think about it? This has been a perplexing question I have asked myself numerous times and yet I still have no answers. Do I feel an obligation to share my memories and experiences that have plagued my mind since I returned home from the Middle East? Maybe I do have an obligation, so that others might learn from my experiences, or maybe it’s nobodies business but my own. So, how do you begin to tell a story that has no appeal to your average person in the first place? How do you begin to compare and contrast one war to another war; I don’t think I would even begin to try.
When I think about my time in the Army as a Cavalry Scout in the Middle East, I have a difficult time believing anyone else other than those I served with really cares and why should they when that war is now a piece of history? When I start thinking about how I would begin to tell my story I inevitably end up asking more questions of myself than I truly have the answers for and maybe that’s the reason for the difficulty with writing about my experiences in the first place.
I could begin with, once upon a time… But I wouldn’t be telling a fairy tale, even if at times it might seem like one to those who were not their. Could this then be the foundation for understanding an individuals experience during war? The prerequisite of understanding can only be forthcoming if you had been a participant of the war in question? This doesn’t seem right, but then again, I know in my mind that I could never explain to anyone the horrors of war nor the lasting affects it has on those who fought them, if in fact they had not been their.
Maybe I could begin to tell my story by explaining the political ideology behind the war and then rationalize my involvement and actions as a soldier; but as a soldier I knew it wasn’t me who made these decisions, so how could I rationalize my involvement when I volunteered to serve my country in the first place? I can hear the old saying in my mind even as I write; you knew the job was dangerous when you took it. Truly, I don’t believe anyone really knows how dangerous the job really is when they take it, but that has always been the way of military life. By the time you do grasp the reality of the situation, it’s to late to reconsider the exact reason(s) behind why you’re where you’re at and doing what you’re doing until after the fact and by then it may be to late, but your not really concerned about the circumstances at that given moment in time; you just want to get through the day alive and in one piece and to help your buddies to do the same. Although, at some point the question arises, why, is someone actively trying to kill me, did I kill there dog or something? When and where one asks the question is not really that important; coming to the realization that someone wants to kill you is enough enlightenment for the time being and time is not relevant, as the enemy takes no issue with this notion, sooner is usually better than later and simply means one less infidel.
One very real issue that did exist during Desert Storm when compared to other wars was the fact that there existed a front, middle and rear of the battlefield. This could explain why some troops saw little or no combat. Although, I have pondered the ability of how one receives a Bronze Star without stepping foot on the battlefield; instead brings coffee to an armchair general who is sitting four stories underground in a filtered and air conditioned building running the war, that would not represent my story.

There also exist the notion that the length of a war is how we distinguish combat veterans from non-combat veterans, thus qualifying the validity of the veteran’s status. This of course is utter nonsense, but I am still surprised that this kind of thinking exists.
If you arrive on the battlefield and it’s your first day in country and on that same day you have your legs blown off, are you any less a combat veteran? Or, is it the fact that an appendage(s) is now missing that qualifies one to be a real disabled combat veteran? This is the mentality I have observed after I returned home from the Middle East; re-enforced with bumper stickers that read, “I’m no Desert Hero, Just a Vietnam Veteran”. While these observations are probable story material, I still don’t know if I could tell my story.
Movie "Star" Jake Gyllenhaal believes he is qualified to tell my story, even though he has no common point of reference to start from. Gyllenhaal did after all play a part as a Marine in the movie Jarhead, so this surly makes him an expert on the subject and was the reason Gyllenhaal could make such a profound statement when he said, "US soldiers were sent to the desert for 122 days and they sat in the same tent and did nothing, except a little too much masturbating." Well, I know this is not an accurate representation of my experiences during the war. Nor was the movie “Three Kings” representative of myself, or anyone I knew.
I could begin to tell my story by talking about the sick, dying and dead veterans of the first Gulf War, but I have been told it’s all in our head and if anything is wrong with a veteran of ‘that’ war, let’s place the blame on Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD), because researcher(s) like Pat Eddington in his book “Gassed in the Gulf” had it all wrong and then lied to Congress. It’s really all just a big conspiracy, after all, we know the government has never lied to our veterans and the American public and would never have sold chemical of biological technology to Iraq. Well, this won’t work for my story either, because I don’t want to write a fictional story, I want to tell the truth about my experiences as a Gulf War veteran.
So, here I am back were I stared; how do I begin to tell my story? I think the sick Gulf War veterans are telling my story, even if no one believes them. And, by those who fought the Iraqi Army prior to the official ground war beginning. Sure, I know a lot of Iraqi’s waved white flags and defected, I saw it on TV too when I came home. Mostly, my story is being told by fellow Gulf War veterans, by preferring to say nothing, because it’s just easer to maintain anonymity. Maybe no one has ever thought about telling a story by saying nothing at all, I suppose that’s something to think about. When I’m asked about my service in the first Gulf War, I respond with an affirmative, to the question. I was in the Army and was a cavalry scout, yes I fought the enemy and they fought back and yes I knew and witnessed solders killed on both sides. But if given the choice, I too prefer my anonymity, because in the end I did my job and its just easer to avoid questions I don’t want to answer. I have learned some very important lessons since I returned home. The first is that nothings the same. The second, no one has any idea what you’re talking about or how you feel. And probably the worst thing for me as a disabled veteran, who has all his appendages is that no one really cares. I won’t begin to speak for all Gulf War veterans, only myself when I say, its just easer to keep some things to myself and I guess that’s my story. No explosions, no body count and no heroics, although I could share many of these details. In the end it’s about just having survived.
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Post by Dagger X-Ray » Tue Jan 16, 2007 8:47 am

VERY WELL PUT and sums it all up in better words than I could come up with.

Thank you ODS
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Post by bilbo37 » Mon Mar 12, 2007 8:48 am

Wow. That was very well put.. Thanks for putting things into words that a lot of people can not ..
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Post by Redmaxx » Mon Mar 12, 2007 10:47 am

WOW. You should see if you can get this published as a short story or maybe expand it into a book.
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Post by FA1SGret » Wed Mar 14, 2007 8:40 pm

Belly up to the bar boys ... drinks are on me ...

Toast to the Cav Scout!
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Post by rodr98 » Fri Mar 23, 2007 5:12 pm

awsome very profound yet accurate.
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Post by Headhunter15E » Sun Apr 08, 2007 6:12 am

I agree well spoken.I just can't shake the feeling of guilt for the current deaths.Stupid
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Post by Murf » Tue Jun 12, 2007 3:03 am

Jake Gyllenhaal is only qualified to act like he knows your story, Scout. He really doesn't know it. Nobody does! Five years ago when me and some of my brothers from Desert Storm got together in Las Vegas, we all had different stories to tell...even though we were all there together. We all remembered different things. It was F***ing fascinating to me! Nobody has any idea what you went through. Just like nobody has any real idea what I went through. I still catch myself trying to recall whether certain things are my own memories or if I dreamed them up. It's really weird. I have been known to have an excellent memory, but certain things seem just too surreal to have really happened to me. Hang in there, Brother! Nobody will ever know your story the way that you do. But nobody deserves to remember it the way you experienced it, either! If you choose to share your experiences with anyone, just keep them true. That's all that really matters...
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Re: My Story

Post by darclegion2 » Mon Feb 08, 2010 5:11 pm

I agree with you totally, you hit so many things, that I think the same.
How do you talk about it, its not like there is a book to be written. I dont much talk about it, because the feel I have is that no one really gives a damn anyway. We are still in combat today, and I look around at civilians, and you would never even know that we are at war....or in a conflict.
I remember seeing those bumper stickers too, that pissed me off, and Vietnam was the whole entire reason I joined the marines, that and John Wayne. I never considered myself a hero....I just did my job that I signed up for and that be a grunt in the Marine Corps Infantry. Im proud that I was there, no doubt and would do it one hundred times again.
And things change, at least I did, combat, changes you, death changes you, reality of war, things I cant explain. YOu see things differently. Life seemed to be more meaningful, after you come home, and then..time goes by..and do you feel forgotten, yea I do sometimes. But do I say something...what the hell are you supposed to say? I damn sure dont want any pity, etc...just maybe I miss my unit. Hell, I dont even know how to explain me to anyone. I never left that place. Seems one that trains to kill, and prepares to be killed, never leaves you.
People ask stupid questions occationally thru my life, like "did you kill anyone?" What the fuck are you supposed to say....why someone asks that is beyond me.
I like your story, it hit some nerves...things I didnt think anyone else felt....I hate sometimes saying Im a disabled vet, but I have no choice. But I could pick up a pack , and haul a machinegun anyday...and still kick ass.....even 19 years later.

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Re: My Story

Post by smokejumpr97 » Wed Oct 27, 2010 2:23 pm

there is nothing there...sounds like a great story
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Re: My Story

Post by haze » Wed Oct 27, 2010 9:33 pm

smokejumper, when was you with C co, 317 engr. bn.?
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Re: My Story

Post by smokejumpr97 » Thu Nov 04, 2010 9:41 pm

haze wrote:smokejumper, when was you with C co, 317 engr. bn.?
got there in sept 90. then during the draw down i got sent to B co and then to Benning.
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Re: My Story

Post by redfish » Fri Nov 05, 2010 3:00 pm

Hey smokejumper, when you got to benning haze, tricky89 and I were with 72nd engr co. Yall moved into our barracks. Cool....
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