Cooked-Off Rounds in the AO

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Cooked-Off Rounds in the AO

Post by redfish » Tue Nov 24, 2009 10:19 pm

Dang cooked-off rounds. It was a problem. I do not know how more people didn't get killed. It seemed to have happened pretty steady for the whole time we were there. I was with 197 Infantry BDE. Our location was between Basra and Nasiriyah on Highway 8. To the best I can find, we were in a place identified as objective GOLD. There was a little jail type place next to our perimeter. It was about 100 feet by 100 feet with red bricks and bars on the windows. No other buildings. We had incoming rounds from demolition crews I feel like 2 or 3 times a day. It was a bad stay.

My questions are these:

Was this taking place theater wide or was it only in our area?

Tricky, did you get a letter of exposure from Khamisiya?
(I don't remember. Seems like I did but it was a long time ago. On the latest list of units exposed, we weren't on it that I found).
((One list did have xviii airborne on it so that I take is all inclusive)).

Did anybody get positive hits on their M8's during this time? How about before the ground war. I specifically remember we did before the ground war. After the cease fire, it seems we did after a few cooked off rounds and then got inconclusive results on the field tests and went all clear anyway.
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Re: Cooked-Off Rounds in the AO

Post by desertdocfwlr » Sun Apr 04, 2010 4:34 am

was that location where they(the scouts 2/7) had a guy get injured schrap..to da kevlar mild
but injured just the same they were demo-ing recovered ammo?
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Re: Cooked-Off Rounds in the AO

Post by redfish » Sun Apr 04, 2010 11:13 am

ammo depots, captured ammo, enemy equipment, bunker complex's, high line wires, over passes. Engineers were like having a close out sale everything must go. Problem was: Some units not sufficiently trained @ demolition.
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Re: Cooked-Off Rounds in the AO

Post by haze » Sun Apr 04, 2010 10:45 pm

it was sure a close out sale!! i the end we was runnin low on everything,hence the incoming rounds, plus those how should i put this....untrained,reserves, guard a bunch of cowboys to be polite those belonging to those units. i"ve done told some of that story awhile back...so i won"t go into it again.but we was blowing the hell out everything we found :mrgreen: fun!!! miss that alot.
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Post by desertdocfwlr » Mon Apr 05, 2010 1:02 am

I just left a long message about my experience with a few reservist and such.....did i take too long? the thing said i must login but i was logged in wuts da deal?
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Re: Cooked-Off Rounds in the AO

Post by haze » Mon Apr 05, 2010 5:27 am

that happens to me once in while too, dunno what the deal is really on that one.
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Post by desertdocfwlr » Tue Apr 06, 2010 8:03 am

Thanks man, it's important to me to know i'm not alone on some of the smallest stuff sometimes..(i'm still a conspiricy theorists often!) :oops: :wink:
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Re: Cooked-Off Rounds in the AO

Post by desertdocfwlr » Tue Apr 06, 2010 8:12 am

The first combat injury I treated was a reservist. He caught his finger in the "breech" I think it's called,... it didn't bleed much.....just neatly removed all the flesh and nail exposing the bone like a peeled banana! we had a medic attached to us who was a reservists and from a really small place that only shows up on a county public safety map.. He said he delivered pizza back home and hadn't done anything medical since AIT! he was reluctant to treat anyone but that was good that he reconized it 8O
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Re: Cooked-Off Rounds in the AO

Post by Redleg13f2h » Sat Apr 10, 2010 9:35 pm

I was assigned to HHT 2/11 ACR in 93. They were famous for burning up their whole motor pool, but for a couple of vehicles, when they were deployed to cover the cease-fire while the desert storm units re-deployed home. Guess somebody didn't like the idea of Saudi getting our tanks?
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Re: Cooked-Off Rounds in the AO

Post by FA1SGret » Sun Apr 11, 2010 8:10 am

desertdocfwlr wrote:I just left a long message about my experience with a few reservist and such.....did i take too long? the thing said i must login but i was logged in wuts da deal?
The server timed out on ya; Don't what the exact of time is before the server drops the connection, but it doesn't seem to be very long.

When I post a lengthy reply I usually copy it before I post it ... then if I have to log in again I just paste my reply then post it.

It aint perfect, but it works for me.
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Re: Cooked-Off Rounds in the AO

Post by haze » Mon Apr 12, 2010 12:47 am

i agree, its not very long before times out. good ideal go copying before you post, Top thanks for the infro.
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Re: Cooked-Off Rounds in the AO

Post by redfish » Sun Jun 27, 2010 2:44 pm

I had an interesting point brought to my attention during group. Remember the trailer explosion Haze? The verocity of the explosion has always sobered me. Huge! The first explosion was small and knocked guys down but the 2nd on leveled everybody. During group we challenged each others belief of responsibility, guilt, etc., one guy asked if maybe the trailer was booby trapped. It was an iraqi trailer. I remember being concerned about that but it makes me wonder. That would change a lot of stuff. It is in the AAR as an accident.

Any body else run into anything like booby trapped equipment?
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Post by Dagger X-Ray » Sun Jun 27, 2010 3:56 pm

I remember being warned left and right not to touch anything because it may be boobytrapped but never experienced any of it firsthand. Closest I came was the bunkers close by that a couple of our infantry guys cleared but got into some blister agent at the same time. I climbed all over a T-60 that hand live grenades laying all over the inside and a ZSU-23 that was stuck. That thing was in mint condition, didn't look like it had been in the field more than a couple of days.
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Re: Cooked-Off Rounds in the AO

Post by redfish » Sun Jun 27, 2010 7:45 pm

We never found anything rigged that I'm aware of. But the warnings were there; however we crawled into everything as well.
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Re: Cooked-Off Rounds in the AO

Post by haze » Sun Jun 27, 2010 10:56 pm

redfish, i don"t think the trailer was booby trapped,..but i could be wrong on this. i heard that the trailer had dynomite in it. iraqi dynomite is like civilian dynomite here, made up of nitroglycerin. our military grade dynomite is"nt. when the fire reached it, it blew. never came across any boobytraps.... but who"s to say that they where"nt any, if i was in their shoes, an had to bug out, i would have... but thats just me....
we blew up ALOT of stuff during that time. i have a hearing aid now, ears have ringing alot now.
your right its listed as a accident in the report, ever noticed that alot of stuff is left out of those reports?
after that happened we was told not to take ant trailers, etc... just blow them in place...hated that :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
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