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 Post subject: After Action Reports for unit locations
PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 12:54 pm 
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Your Gulf War Unit: 24th Infantry Division, 197th Infantry Brigage, 72 Engr Co.
I have been really interested in my units locations during storm. Much like many of you. I found a good bit of information from XVIII Airborne Chronology After Action Reports. It is in almost 30 min. increments of movement. When it mentions objective names like GOLD or BROWN or COBRA, I have been able to go to maps I have found on the net and see where we were. One problem I have ran into though is when the report is broken down to other areas that are numbered for identification. I have not found a map with those identifiers. The after action report was a really interesting read though because when it would mention things I can remember them happening and what went down. I would imagine that the other units have these reports posted on the net if anyone else would like to give it a look. I just found mine with my search engine.

Any body know where to find maps with the numbers like PU7272? That number is associated with a POW detention site was between Basra and Nasiriyah. It was a brick building with bars on the walls and lots of messed up stuff went down in and around our perimeter. Units involved were 197th inf, 1/18th inf. BN, 72ENGR CO, and I think 2/69 Armor. Most of the number identifiers were in the format of PU784069 for example. If we can break those down, we can track our movements.

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 Post subject: Re: After Action Reports for unit locations
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Your Gulf War Unit: 197th Inf. 72nd ENG. CO
We were so scatered about, i dont remember the places anymore very well. How i got back with my unit is a big mystery! LOL. I know i was with 2/18 inf for a couple of days at the rock quary where the mine field incedent happen, then later i was with some unit out of oklahoma,, and so on and so on. I had a map out there but i wiped my ass with it, lol i figured if i didnt know where i was, how could i know where i was going. I stoped a passing unit i saw about my unit but they didnt speak english, I think they were YEMAN troops. I thought later i should have lit their ass up, just to be safe! LOL. That was such a large space of THOUSANDS Of troops millions of storys and memmories, you probobly could fill a library. I hope more post their storys and travels.

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 Post subject: Re: After Action Reports for unit locations
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Your Gulf War Unit: B Co. 7/159 Avn. Regt.
Where did you find the after action reports? I was with VII Corps just outside hofer al batin.

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 Post subject: Re: After Action Reports for unit locations
PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 2:34 pm 
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Your Gulf War Unit: 24th Infantry Division, 197th Infantry Brigage, 72 Engr Co.
The web site for 18th airborne is:
http://www.history.army.mil/chronos/intro.htm

I do not know for 7th corps but I will look. I found ours by just typing in stuff in my search engine. If I find something for you I'll let you know.


Tricky, see man perfect example. You and I were in the same friggin' squad yet we were completely separated and have completely different experiences. It is a wonder more accidents didn't happen. I can somewhat understand the confusion now and some of the damn cook off rounds. Who knew where anybody was.


I wonder if PU7272 was a GPS coodinate.

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 Post subject: Re: After Action Reports for unit locations
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Your Gulf War Unit: 197th Inf. 72nd ENG. CO
There was no way our command knew where we were at all times, including squad leaders, they should be embareced. What i dont understand is why didnt these units have their own ENGRS. It never made any sence. They should have already had a war time protacale for there units. I know i little about the pre-planning becuse i had attended the operation at FT. BRAGG in july just before the invasion of Kuwait, but i was left in the dark, but the major i drove for, looked HORRIFIED when he came out of the meeting at about 02:00 am. He had alot of maps and they really looked confusing, Lines and curves ALL OVER THE PLACE! LOL Looking back now its funny to see a plan that won the war was so simple, but took that much planning.LOL.

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 Post subject: Re: After Action Reports for unit locations
PostPosted: Wed Nov 18, 2009 3:39 pm 
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Your Gulf War Unit: 24th Infantry Division, 197th Infantry Brigage, 72 Engr Co.
We were the engineers for the dollar ninety seven. That's why we were just a company. I do think it is a good idea for have the inf. batts to have their own internal sapper platoon under their command. Imagine how much better the cohesion would be. It would probably limit some confusion. I know for a fact they did not know where we were individually. Mine and Wagner's ass ended up alone somewhere in Iraq. That can't be good. LOL. I was up and down that damn highway to who knows where. It's a wonder I didn't end up on CNN.... LOL

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 Post subject: Re: After Action Reports for unit locations
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Your Gulf War Unit: 197th Inf. 72nd ENG. CO
To sum it up my exprience, (like many) was like a scene out of Mad MAX BEYOND THUNDERDOME, LOL The only thing missing was TINA TURNNER and the Midget. 1000 different uniforms, strange vehicals, our bulldozer looked comical comming across the desert with sombody on top looking for bourder town,,,LOL I traded my sleeping bag for 3 packs of cigeretts, LOL. I could almost hear that theme " WE DONT NEED ANOTHER HERO" LOL

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 Post subject: Re: After Action Reports for unit locations
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Your Gulf War Unit: 197th Inf. 72nd ENG. CO
Also redfish, i remember you told me about a week before the ground invasion what the plan was, AND YOU WERE SO RIGHT i was shocked. It worked just like you said,, (except my wife fucking sombody else) LOL, but you had it all figured out.

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 Post subject: Re: After Action Reports for unit locations
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Your Gulf War Unit: 197th Inf. 72nd ENG. CO
PS, also, i always thought you should have been our squad leader.

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 Post subject: Re: After Action Reports for unit locations
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Your Gulf War Unit: 24th Infantry Division, 197th Infantry Brigage, 72 Engr Co.
Thnx man....though I have no idea what I told you before G-Day. Remember Hubbard? LOL He was MIA for like a month and they found him pumping gas in a reserve unit!!! LOL!!

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 Post subject: Re: After Action Reports for unit locations
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Your Gulf War Unit: 197th Inf. 72nd ENG. CO
Oh yea, i remember we stopped at this supply line, place or what ever it was, and there he was surving sandwiches and fuel! another fine example of our leadership. How could they not know where he was, and why didnt that unit contact ours? there were so many rumors about him being missing. He never talked about it, and we never ask. LOL

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 Post subject: Re: After Action Reports for unit locations
PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 6:41 am 
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His truck broke down on tapline. Instead of staying with it, he walked off down the road. Someone gave him a ride to a re-supply station. And, I guess he like it because he never came home. He just happened to get seen.

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 Post subject: Re: After Action Reports for unit locations
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I wonder if PU7272 was a GPS coodinate.


That sounds like a map square and grid to Me .

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 Post subject: Re: After Action Reports for unit locations
PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 12:33 pm 
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Thanks Dispatch. I do think you may be right. Most of the "grids" were larger like NT9063748 or PU ...etc. I wonder if one could get ahold of the actual maps and get a look see at the grid nomenclature. Wow, with that I could track location with the chronology reports.

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 Post subject: Re: After Action Reports for unit locations
PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:58 pm 
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Your Gulf War Unit: 24th Infantry Division, 197th Infantry Brigage, 72 Engr Co.
Somebody was asking about 3AD movements. There is a pretty sweet website that is the best thing for VII corps that I have been able to find. The website is:

3ad.org/desertstorm/hist_summaries/ds_official_reports.htm

If it gives you phase line like Smash or Kiwi, or if it give you area names like Cobra or Brown or Kelly etc... you can lokk on other sites that have maps with these places identified on them.


This is all new on here to me so if this is repetitive please forgive me.

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