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 Post subject: Re: medications given prior to Desert Storm
PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 7:07 am 
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Your Gulf War Unit: 3rd Bn 17th Field Artillery
Which one did we have to sign the liability waiver for? I don't remember if it was the Botulism or the Anthrax.

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 Post subject: Re: medications given prior to Desert Storm
PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:19 am 
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Your Gulf War Unit: 2nd Brigade 1st Infantry Division
I think that would be the one for YOUR LIFE.

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 Post subject: Re: medications given prior to Desert Storm
PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 1:19 pm 
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Your Gulf War Unit: 3rd Bn 17th Field Artillery
No ...

While we were in the desert, we got some shots ... anthrax and botulism, I think. The shots were voluntary, and we had to sign a release of liability if we wanted it (them). I signed it, got the shot(s).

No one else did this?

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 Post subject: Re: medications given prior to Desert Storm
PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 3:14 pm 
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Your Gulf War Unit: 2nd Brigade 1st Infantry Division
I don't remember. I probably either drank or smoked those brain cells away years ago.

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 Post subject: Re: medications given prior to Desert Storm
PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 9:09 pm 
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Your Gulf War Unit: 400th MP BN, 800th MP Bde
I got those shots, they are marked on my medical records as vaccine A and vaccine B. The suspition is that these vaccines were cut with a substance that is known to cause neurological symptoms in test rats. Just another piece in the puzzle.

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 Post subject: Re: medications given prior to Desert Storm
PostPosted: Tue Jul 20, 2010 7:28 pm 
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Your Gulf War Unit: 72nd. ENGR. CO. 197TH INF. BDE. 24TH INF
i remeber the shots also, remember the waiver, but we was"nt given a choice on the matter. just like everything else they tried on us . the PB pills, shots etc. funny how also everybody"s shot record disappeared , or nothing really on them years later. anything that you had done over there med records, shots, injuries et...nothing on file to speak of. maybe some records where lost, forgotten somewhere. but something keeps tellin me theres a little more to it, an they"rte wanting to say...

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 Post subject: Re: medications given prior to Desert Storm
PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 7:14 am 
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Your Gulf War Unit: 24th Infantry Division, 197th Infantry Brigage, 72 Engr Co.
If I recall, we got all those shots at Benning before we rolled out. No, we were never given an option about anything. We got a huge amount of shots for every damn thing and the pills the day before g-day. Then they wanted the left over pills AND the wrappers back after the cease fire. That made us suspicious. What the hell you want the wrappers back for?

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 Post subject: Re: medications given prior to Desert Storm
PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2010 6:43 pm 
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I remember keeping some of the white boxes of PB pills for years afterward but honestly have no idea what I would have done with them by now. I probably tossed them away sometime over the years.

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 Post subject: Re: medications given prior to Desert Storm
PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:03 am 
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Your Gulf War Unit: 24th Infantry Division, 197th Infantry Brigage, 72 Engr Co.
I kept some too because of how they acted about it. But, I too lost 'em I guess. Knowing me, I rolled some green in them and smoked it.

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 Post subject: Re: medications given prior to Desert Storm
PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 1:13 pm 
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Your Gulf War Unit: 2nd Brigade 1st Infantry Division
No shit, in the end I may have also. I just hope I really enjoyed it.

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(4/88 - 9/88) AIT Fort Gordon, Ga
(12/87 - 3/88) Basic Training Fort Jackson, SC

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 Post subject: Re: medications given prior to Desert Storm
PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 2:05 pm 
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Your Gulf War Unit: 24th Infantry Division, 197th Infantry Brigage, 72 Engr Co.
I hope I blacked out on the sh#t. You know I have discovered these days that afew rollin' papers and some shrubery have helped my demeanor. At least as much as the VA meds without knockin' me out.

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 Post subject: Re: medications given prior to Desert Storm
PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 2:07 pm 
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Your Gulf War Unit: 24th Infantry Division, 197th Infantry Brigage, 72 Engr Co.
LMAO! Put on some Huey Lewis " I Wanna New Drug" and smoke some grass in a PB wrapper! Ah, the good life. :lol: :lol: :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: medications given prior to Desert Storm
PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 6:12 pm 
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Your Gulf War Unit: 72nd. ENGR. CO. 197TH INF. BDE. 24TH INF
ahhh.... memories....sweet... :mrgreen: , i really fill that we was screwed on this shit, when it really comes down to it. our medic told us that they"d never been tried on humans before... could"nt unless act of war.
i can just see a bunch of docs, scientists, etc with light bulbs going off over their heads when they heard that we was probably going to war. saying" hey.... get that shit out that we"ve never gotten to try out an see how that goes , it"ll be years before any real side effects show up or till figure stuff out"

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 Post subject: Re: medications given prior to Desert Storm
PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 8:12 pm 
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Your Gulf War Unit: 1st Armored Division HHB 6/3 ADA
what is this waiver everyone keeps talking, I never signed a waiver for getting the shots in Desert Storm? they told us we had to get the shots I did and passed out, either i don't remember what they said it was or they never told us, I can't remember its been so long..

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 Post subject: Re: medications given prior to Desert Storm
PostPosted: Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:52 pm 
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Your Gulf War Unit: 72nd. ENGR. CO. 197TH INF. BDE. 24TH INF
i think that it boils down to maybe the docs over there did"nt know about the waivers, did"nt have them, did"nt want to mess with the paperwork, they"re probably with our medical records, shot records from the sandbox.lost, misplaced by the gov.
ya, its been a long time now.... but parts seem like yesterday, kinda nice to look back at our younger yrs....in our memories, we"re all young an will remember each other as that young soldier of so long ago.......

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