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 Post subject: Re: Why withdrawal from Iraq is a bad decision
PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 4:55 pm 
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We've already pulled out the combat troops. JMHO is we need to get out. We can monitor all these threats in many other ways than troops on the ground. That whole area ain't never been stable. Combat Carl hangin' out in the streets don't change nuthin'. Let's use the technology we have and monitor from afar.

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 Post subject: Re: Why withdrawal from Iraq is a bad decision
PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 6:42 pm 
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No we didn't pull ALL of them out. They pulled a large number of combat units out but re-designated those that stayed by no longer calling them "combat" units. We still have quite a few units patrolling the areas of Iraq in combat vehicles but as support units and other names not synonymous with the word combat.

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 Post subject: Re: Why withdrawal from Iraq is a bad decision
PostPosted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 7:05 pm 
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My bad Dagger. I still feel our exit is good. Thanx for the clean up in the forum.

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 Post subject: Re: Why withdrawal from Iraq is a bad decision
PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 8:46 am 
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Remeber the Kurds.....?

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 Post subject: Re: Why withdrawal from Iraq is a bad decision
PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 9:07 am 
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Yeah but when do we get out if not now? We can't occupy countries to keep them from imploding forever. That was'nt the mission. The mission was to remove Saddam.

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 Post subject: Re: Why withdrawal from Iraq is a bad decision
PostPosted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 9:33 am 
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It has always been my understanding that we did not originally remove Saddam because it would h ave thrown the balance of power off in the Middle East. Leaving him in place was a necessity to keep all the bad in balance and deal with it/him at a later time with more involvement of the other countries within the Arab Emrates. Obviously 9/11 was the excuse needed to just go in and take him out. The American people wanted blood and with Osama Bin Laden tip Toeing around in his li'l caves hiding from us, Saddam was the next best thing. It appeased MANY people and calmed the tension down. Notice, he still has not been captured yet America chilled out and not trying to hang every Arab out there anymore.

I don't think we will ever be out of there 100%. I think we will always have a US presence/base(s) over in Saudi or Kuwait.

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 Post subject: Re: Why withdrawal from Iraq is a bad decision
PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 4:19 pm 
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North Korea, Africa, China, Russia, Syria, Jordan, Iran? Where does one draw the line? I can understand a small presence in Iraq and Kuwait but we can't just keep going after places because there are some maniacs in their country who feel ill towards us. Anti terror tactics is the answer. Before Clinton arrived, there was an anti terror group that acted as a watch dog. When a "Cell" got too active, Special-ops took'em out. Small specialized units to do the deeds. Clinton cut the funding for these anti terror units which created the possibility of 911. I just don't see ground forces being the watch dog. There has been terrorists in the middle east for centuries. It's their way of life. I think it gives 'em somethin' to do. We have the technology to do the snoop and poop.

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