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 Post subject: gulf war II and same old cover up
PostPosted: Sat Sep 06, 2003 4:30 am 
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I am only one but I am one. I can not do everything but I can Do something And because I cannot do everything I will not refuse to do the something that I can do What I can do I should do And what I should do by the grace of God I will do. Edward E. Hale

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NEW REVELATION SURFACES ABOUT GULF WAR II MYSTERY ILLNESS The American Gulf War Veterans Association (AGWVA), an independent Gulf War Veterans support organization, has long searched for answers to explain why nearly half of the 697,000 Gulf War I Veterans are now ill and why over 200,000 of those servicemen/women have requested disability, but have received no adequate diagnosis or treatment, from either the Department of Defense (DOD), or Veterans Affairs. Though there have been over 125 studies done by the government at the cost of over $300,000,000 to the taxpayer, we still have no answers as to what caused so many of our soldiers to become ill. Meanwhile, the suffering veterans are receiving little, if any, medical treatment for this illness. It seems that whenever veterans become ill, the term mystery illness seems to be the first and often the only diagnosis that is ever made. Veterans are then left to fend for themselves, sick and unable to work, with little hope of a normal life again.

The AGWVA is now again asking questions, this time, about the newest mystery illness to hit the military. After being pressured by a few independent news reporters who have not permitted this mystery to continue unabated, The DOD recently has been forced to announce the mystery deaths of Gulf War II soldiers and that at least 100 other men and women have become ill. Again, however, there were no adequate answers, but, only that the mystery illness diagnosis had reared its ugly head again. According to a family member of one of the military victims, the DOD recently, has changed its label of the illness and is now calling it pneumonia in sharp contrast to what a physician on the scene reported. Due to continuing pressure for sound answers, the DOD was again forced to send an investigative team to Iraq, however the convenient, repeated lack of diagnosis, unfortunately translates into lack of treatment, and lack of compensation for the veteran. The jury is still out, however, if the DOD will be forthcoming with the truth this time.

Contrary to the pneumonia and mystery illness labels, enlightening information surfaced today on THE POWER HOUR radio show ( in an interview with Mark Neusche, father of Josh Neusche, one of the GW II troops to lose his life from the mystery illness while serving in Iraq. The father stated that his 20-year-old healthy son, a former track star and non-smoker, had written home on June 26th explaining that he would be going on a 30-hour hauling mission, but that he could not disclose what they would be hauling. The son had stated that he had been to the Palace of Sadaam Hussein, and it was later learned that he was hauling at the Baghdad Airport.

Marsha Paxson also appeared on the show, as she is the journalist who broke the U.S. story for the Lake Sun Leader ( Although the facts behind this story are continually changing, Ms. Paxson is one of the few journalists who is remaining true to the facts of the original story. Ms. Paxson revealed in her articles that the father reported that his son was not the only ill soldier. Neusche stated that while his son was in a coma at Landstuhl Hospital, the father overheard the nurses say that they were expecting numerous sick troops to be brought in all at one time. In fact, the father actually witnessed approximately 55 other troops being received by the hospital after they were transported by a military ambulance (bus). According to the father, the transported troops were exhibiting varying degrees of the illness. Some walked, some were in wheelchairs and others were on respirators. In the commotion, a doctor reported to the father that his son was suffering from a toxin. No mention of pneumonia was ever made to him, nor was it ever reported in the medical record.

Paxson and the AGWVA now question the diagnosis, the actual number of troops that were reported ill, and when the DOD first became aware of this incident.

One of the most surprising statements to come from The Power Hour interview conducted on The Genesis Network was that while the son, Josh Neusche, was a healthy young soldier on June 26, 2003, when he reported that he was going to serve on the secret hauling mission, by July 1, 2003, he was in a coma, and that day was suddenly classified by the military, as medically retired from the Army without Josh or his family's consent. Josh did not die until July 12, 2003. Among other problems that this new classification created was that the DOD was no longer obligated to assist the family in getting to Germany to be with their son as he lay in a coma. Because the DOD would not provide even so much as plane or taxi fare for the Neusche family, :x all 650 members of the 203 Engineer Battalion each contributed $10.00 to make the family's final visit possible. :D

The AGWVA is demanding answers in a timely fashion and according to spokesperson Joyce Riley, We will not tolerate another whitewashing of a tragedy against our veterans. It has happened too many times before with our failure to safeguard our troops, adequately diagnose and effectively treat the victims of Agent Orange spraying, Project Shad shipboard-experimentation, and Gulf War Illness I. This time someone has to be held accountable. Ms. Riley closed by saying, Speaking out for our past and present sick veterans is the best way for Americans to support our troops!

The interview with Mark Neusche and Marsha Paxson can be heard at: click on the GWII mystery illness interview. For more information on Gulf War illnesses, go to

For more information on Project Shad, go to

I am only one but I am one. I can not do everything but I can Do something And because I cannot do everything I will not refuse to do the something that I can do What I can do I should do And what I should do by the grace of God I will do. Edward E. Hale

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 13, 2003 12:06 am 
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no they are trying to link this to smoking :roll: maybe next they will claim its stress related :roll:

Washington Post
September 12, 2003
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Troops' Pneumonia Outbreak Spurs Medical Hunt

By David Brown, Washington Post Staff Writer

Lt. Col. Janice M. Rusnak, recently arrived at the U.S. military hospital in Landstuhl, Germany, for a tour as infectious-diseases specialist, walked into the third-floor intensive care unit. She didn't know the name of the patient she wanted to see. But she had what she considered a fairly good description.

Can you point me to the soldier from Iraq who's on a ventilator? she asked a nurse. The one with acute respiratory distress syndrome.

Which one? the nurse answered. We have three.

Three cases in one place -- pretty strange, the 50-year-old Rusnak remembers thinking.

Rusnak's observation that morning in late July was the opening chapter of a medical whodunit -- the end of which still hasn't been written. Although it has identified a surprising suspect, the military is still in the midst of a full-scale investigation to trace the source of a rare, and occasionally fatal, illness.

What's clear so far is this: Since early March, about 100 soldiers deployed to the Persian Gulf region and Central Asia have contracted pneumonia. About 30 have been ill enough to be sent to hospitals in Europe or the United States. In medical slang, 19 "crashed" within hours of getting sick, not responding to antibiotics and requiring mechanical ventilators to breathe for them. Two have died.

On the day she walked into the Landstuhl hospital, Rusnak was looking for a patient about whom she had been told several days earlier in an e-mail from doctors at the Army's 28th Combat Support Hospital in Iraq. They had a soldier with severe pneumonia whom they were thinking of evacuating to Germany. They were worried, and a little spooked. They had recently had a similar patient -- a 24-year-old sergeant with pneumonia who also needed a ventilator. He had gone into cardiac arrest and died while being prepared for a flight out.

There's a saying in medicine that an "outbreak" is when you see one more case of a disease than you expect. Here were four young soldiers from Iraq sick enough with pneumonia to need machines to breathe for them, and one had died. This was not something Rusnak could easily pass by.

And she didn't.

Before the day was over, she and colleagues at Landstuhl notified Army epidemiologists in the United States that they might be looking at some sort of outbreak. What or how extensive it was, they weren't sure.

Nothing obviously links the cases, the severe ones in particular. There is no evidence the illness is passed person to person. The 19 people -- 18 men and one woman -- were stationed across 2,600 miles, from Djibouti in the Horn of Africa to Uzbekistan in Central Asia, with most in Iraq. They had a variety of military occupations. Only two were in the same unit, and they became ill six months apart.

Overall, the incidence of pneumonia in deployed troops has not been wildly out of line with what is expected. It's the number of severe cases that's unusual -- that and the fact that 10 of them showed proliferation of uncommon immune system cells called eosinophils.

Whatever the disease may be, it is clearly rare. It may even be new. The military's interest, however, isn't academic. It wants to learn what's going on so it can prevent future cases.

The investigators are working in the long shadow of Gulf War syndrome, a grab bag of illnesses and physical complaints that emerged after the 1991 war against Iraq. The Pentagon was accused of not paying enough attention to that problem, and doesn't want a repeat of that experience.

Although the pneumonia outbreak and Gulf War syndrome differ in nearly every important characteristic, the Army is going after this one aggressively, deploying investigative teams, searching old records for similar cases and consulting civilian experts from the start.

"Whether that reflects some hypervigilance -- I would say yes, it probably does. I would say I think we're much more sensitive to it because of the Gulf War experience," said Col. Robert F. DeFraites, an epidemiologist and senior preventive medicine officer in the Army surgeon general's office.

In many ways, it is a classic investigation of a rare medical event. Unlike outbreaks of diarrhea and bronchitis, where there's an unmistakable spike in cases and the issue is what's causing them, outbreaks of rare conditions begin with a more basic question. Is anything really happening here? Is there a new signal coming out of the usual background noise?

Janice Rusnak thought she did hear a new signal. On the other side of the Atlantic, at the Army's Center for Health Promotion and Preventive Medicine at Aberdeen Proving Ground outside Baltimore, Col. Bruno P. Petruccelli thought he heard one, too.

"On one day, sitting here in my office, two things happened," Petruccelli recalled recently.

First, he received a copy of several e-mails Rusnak had sent from Germany to colleagues at the Army's infectious disease research center at Fort Detrick in Frederick. She described the rapid downhill course of several pneumonia cases she had seen. Electronically clipped to one message was a dramatically abnormal chest X-ray of a young soldier, the lungs nearly "whited out" with fluid, a condition often presaging death.

Then came another e-mail message, this one from a woman in Kuwait working for the Army team that samples soil, air and water at encampment sites. She had heard that the local military hospital had seen an unusual number of pneumonia cases. She even gave a number -- 17. The subject line of the message was "mysterious disease."

Shortly after he had read both messages, Petruccelli got a call from the doctor at Fort Detrick who had forwarded Rusnak's e-mails. He wanted to talk about them.

"You couldn't have done it better in Hollywood. It all kind of blows in on one day," Petruccelli recalled.

The military has a long history of making discoveries in epidemiology and medicine. Its closely observed population of mostly young healthy people is one in which the odd cases are likely to be noticed -- if your eyes are open to them. Already, doctors in the Iraq theater had noticed a number of infections in both American and Iraqi casualties caused by acinetobacter, a relatively rare microbe found in soil. The pneumonias were another blip worthy of attention.

Over the next two weeks, Rusnak and a military epidemiologist in Landstuhl tabulated cases of soldiers with pneumonia who had been sick enough to be flown out for treatment. They came up with 15 -- possibly an incomplete count, they thought -- and described them to Petruccelli and DeFraites in a conference call on July 3.

That afternoon, those two physicians held another conference call with stateside military doctors, one of whom suggested patching in Stephen M. Ostroff, an infectious-diseases expert at CDC and head of a committee of civilian advisers called the Armed Forces Epidemiological Board.

"I remember telling them that in my experience, when healthy young adults develop a typical bacterial pneumonia, if they get a whiff of antibiotics they tend to turn around fairly quickly. It's unusual for people this age to deteriorate," Ostroff recalls. "I strongly conveyed to them that this needed to be looked into, without question."

There were hints these strange cases might not be infections at all. Many of the sickest patients had deteriorated with a speed rarely seen in bacterial or viral pneumonias. The soldier for whom Rusnak went looking in the Landstuhl ICU was a good example.

A soldier in his early twenties, he played volleyball the afternoon he got sick and after dinner was watching a movie when he suddenly became so breathless he thought he might pass out. The only other thing unusual that evening was a slight nosebleed. By the time he arrived by helicopter at the 28th Combat Support Hospital near Baghdad, he had a 102-degree fever and was struggling to breathe. Within six hours of his first symptom, he was on a ventilator.

A case from Uzbekistan in April was similar: a young soldier who felt well, then had 12 hours of mild chest tightness and shortness of breath before he needed a machine to keep him alive.

This picture is more typical of an out-of-control immune system reaction than an infection.

On July 12, a second soldier died of multi-organ failure in Landstuhl. He had had a day of chest pain and breathlessness before being put on a ventilator on June 30.

On July 17, the Army surgeon general launched an investigation.

Although the count of about 100 cases of pneumonia since March 1 through mid-August turns out to be about what one might expect, what was unusual were features of some -- but not all -- of the severe cases.

Of the original 19, four had evidence of bacterial infection. There was no evidence of other infectious respiratory diseases -- no severe acute respiratory syndrome, influenza, Legionnaire's disease, hantavirus, mycoplasma or fungal infections. Even more peculiar was what laboratory tests did show -- large numbers of the usually rare eosinophil cells in the blood or lungs -- and sometimes both -- of 10 patients.

Occasionally, exposure to chemicals or specific drugs can cause such cells to proliferate. When large numbers turn up in the blood -- a condition called eosinophilia -- in someone taking many medicines, it is usually chalked up as a drug reaction.

There didn't appear to be any drug that had been taken by the 10 patients, but they did have one thing in common. All were smokers, and nine, including one who died, had started or resumed smoking during the deployment.

One of the nine was Lt. Cmdr. Glen Todd. The 47-year-old Navy nurse-anesthetist was working in a hospital in Djibouti when he woke up in a breathless sweat the night of Aug. 6. His condition worsened rapidly, and he was evacuated to Landstuhl, where he was put on a ventilator Aug. 8.

Todd is the oldest of the 19 patients who became seriously ill. He had smoked for several years in his twenties, but quit. In May he started again, eventually getting up to a half-pack of cigarettes a day and two cigars at night.

"Why does anybody smoke or why does somebody drink a beer once in a while?" he asked rhetorically in a telephone interview from his home in Great Lakes, Ill., where he is recuperating. "I think I started smoking over there mostly as a social thing."

Like many of the patients who needed ventilators, he turned around quickly and was off the machine in a few days, with no apparent lasting damage to his health.

Smoking predisposes a person to pneumonia, and of the entire group of 19 people on ventilators, 15 smoked. Nevertheless, the eosinophilia in new smokers seemed more than just a coincidence to Maj. Andrew Shorr, a lung specialist in Landstuhl. He found 12 intriguing papers published by Japanese physicians in the past six years. They reported cases of the rare disease, most of them in teenagers who had recently started smoking. All recovered quickly, sometimes with the help of steroids, which decrease inflammation. The researchers had re-exposed several to cigarette smoke to see if the eosinophilia returned, and it did.

There was also a 1999 paper published by two Army doctors in the journal Military Medicine who reported two cases of severe pneumonia with eosinophilia in soldiers at Fort Irwin in Southern California. Both were smokers.

Speaking from a Baghdad rooftop on a satellite telephone recently, Col. Bonnie L. Smoak, an Army physician leading the investigation in Iraq, said an epidemiologist there is surveying a sample of deployed soldiers to see how many recently began smoking.

As to the ultimate explanation of the dangerous pneumonias, there is no shortage of theories.

Although the investigators are still searching for and reviewing the records of all pneumonia cases, at least some of the 19 severe cases are sporadic, garden-variety cases caused by infection. But the patients with eosinophilia are probably a subgroup of their own.

If they were all smokers, what else might they share? Was there a "second hit" they all got that hasn't yet been identified? Was there some common environmental exposure? Did it have something to do with the desert? Was there a genetic predisposition that made them vulnerable?

Is it also possible that after a century in which hundreds of millions of people started smoking that a brand-new disease caused by the habit could turn up in 2003?

"I am skeptical about that," DeFraites said recently. "The big question to me is -- why here and why now?"

The last case occurred Aug. 19. The Army isn't convinced it's the last. The search for the culprit is narrowing, but it's not over.


I am only one but I am one. I can not do everything but I can Do something And because I cannot do everything I will not refuse to do the something that I can do What I can do I should do And what I should do by the grace of God I will do. Edward E. Hale

 Post subject: sickness?
PostPosted: Tue Dec 14, 2004 12:25 pm 
My mother who is currently serving in iraq has allergic reactions to anthrax shots but it's just the person it's not a conspiracy!

Jo Schumacher
8th grade iola wi

 Post subject: Soldier deserted while in Desert Storm
PostPosted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 7:23 pm 
I read this article about what a soldier went through in Desert Storm and I was shocked. It is posted on and the article is entilted Desert Tribulation

Let me know what you think about it. It is unreal what the Army will not recognize and what they cover -up, I am sure there is more to his story then what he wrote, alot more.

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PostPosted: Tue May 29, 2007 3:50 pm 

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Same old BS. I served in the First Gulf War and have been dealing with serious health issue for many years now. I lost my career making six figures due to my symptoms and the VA is not willing to help at all. I was not even expecting money but maybe just some answers. I guess they will see how many of us will die off before they finally have to start helping people. My.02...

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 28, 2007 8:24 pm 
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C'mon y'all! It's the same frigging war, it just had a 16 year cease fire. If we had been allowed to take out that SOB Saddam when we had the chance our sons and daughters wouldn't be fighting in THIS phase of the war. My son has already fought in the 'Stan and after the holidays he'll ship out to the Sandbox. He gets to tread the same areas I did 16 years ago. Politicians! They should all be suited up and sent out patrol in the hot zones for few months.

Don't give up brothers and sisters. I fought for 11 years but I finally got my 100% Permanent and Total disability. They won't admit to anything being combat related except for my PTSD. At least, I'm getting treated for all of it!

5th Mobile Army Surgical Hospital, 5th Forward Surgical Element, Fort Bragg NC, DS/DS Oct 90 to Apr 91


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